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An Interview with Dr. Ralph D Fertig regarding his upcoming Supreme Court Case, and his activism for the Kurdish People By Soraya Fallah Exclusive vokradio more information
Comments and letter from friend of mine:
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An Interview with Dr. Ralph D Fertig regarding his upcoming Supreme Court Case, and his activism for the Kurdish People By Soraya Fallah Exclusive vokradio more information
Comments and letter from friend of mine:
An Interview with Dr. Ralph D Fertig
regarding his upcoming Supreme Court Case, and his activism for the Kurdish
People By Soraya Fallah Exclusive vokradio
Dear Soraya, I want to thank you and as counsel to Dr. Ralph Fertig.
Indeed, I read in the Journal Amaricain concerns of Dr. Ralph for the liberation movement in Kurdistan and I thank him. If I resume the situation.
Ralph Fertig, president of the Humanitarian Law Project, wants to encourage a similar change within the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, a violent separatist group in Turkey also known as the PKK (its Kurdish initials). But he worries that doing so will expose him to prosecution for providing “material support” to a terrorist organization, a crime Congress has defined so broadly that it includes a great deal of speech protected by the First Amendment. When it hears Fertig’s case next week, the Supreme Court will have a chance to correct that error.
Fertig, a civil rights lawyer and former administrative law judge, seeks, as the district court described it, to “provide training in the use of humanitarian and international law for the peaceful resolution of disputes, engage in political advocacy on behalf of the Kurds living in Turkey and teach the PKK how to petition for relief before representative bodies like the United Nations.” Fertig says he also wants to “advocate on behalf of the rights of the Kurdish people and the PKK before the United Nations and the United States Congress.”
Another plaintiff in the case, an American physician named Nagalingam Jeyalingam, wants to do similar work with the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a violent separatist group in Sri Lanka that, like the PKK, appears on the State Department’s list of terrorist organizations. In the words of the district court, Jeyalingam seeks to “provide training in the presentation of claims to mediators and international bodies for tsunami-related aid, offer legal expertise in negotiating peace agreements between the LTTE and the Sri Lankan government, and engage in political advocacy on behalf of Tamils living in Sri Lanka.”
Whether you think Fertig and Jeyalingam are humanitarian heroes, naive dreamers or inadvertent flacks for terrorists, the projects they have in mind clearly amount to “pure speech promoting lawful, nonviolent activities,” as their attorneys say. Yet the federal law they are challenging seems to make such speech a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.
Under the law, it is a crime to provide an organization on the State Department’s list with “training,” defined as “instruction or teaching designed to impart a specific skill, as opposed to general knowledge”; “expert advice or assistance,” defined as “advice or assistance derived from scientific, technical or other specialized knowledge”; “personnel,” which means any person, including oneself, who works under the organization’s “direction or control”; or “service,” which is not defined at all.
These terms (especially that last one) could easily be construed to cover the activities proposed by Fertig and Jeyalingam, even though they would be trying to discourage terrorism and promote peaceful alternatives.
During oral arguments before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, which ruled that several aspects of the “material support” ban are unconstitutional, the government’s lawyer said you could go to prison for filing a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of a listed group, for pressing its case at the U.N. or even for asking Congress to take the group off the list. “Congress wants these organizations to be radioactive,” he explained.
initially I sent you the letter I sent to U.S. President, Mr Bucsh in a second time my article on the decision ed the European Court of Human Rights which annulled the Decisions of the Council Europe has put the PKK on the list of terrorist organizations. The action before the European Court of Rights was made by my friend Prof. Ismet Sheriff Vanly, Professor Emeritus of International Law at the University of Geneva.
I contacted the head of the organization on this subject. I want to see her Friday, February 26th at the Conference at French Parliament on the situation of Kurdish people in Turkey.
We are available to Dr. Fertig Raplh for all evidence.
Best regards.
Dr Ali Kilic
Dear Soraya, I want to thank you and as counsel to Dr. Ralph Fertig.
Indeed, I read in the Journal Amaricain concerns of Dr. Ralph for the liberation movement in Kurdistan and I thank him. If I resume the situation.
Ralph Fertig, president of the Humanitarian Law Project, wants to encourage a similar change within the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, a violent separatist group in Turkey also known as the PKK (its Kurdish initials). But he worries that doing so will expose him to prosecution for providing “material support” to a terrorist organization, a crime Congress has defined so broadly that it includes a great deal of speech protected by the First Amendment. When it hears Fertig’s case next week, the Supreme Court will have a chance to correct that error.
Fertig, a civil rights lawyer and former administrative law judge, seeks, as the district court described it, to “provide training in the use of humanitarian and international law for the peaceful resolution of disputes, engage in political advocacy on behalf of the Kurds living in Turkey and teach the PKK how to petition for relief before representative bodies like the United Nations.” Fertig says he also wants to “advocate on behalf of the rights of the Kurdish people and the PKK before the United Nations and the United States Congress.”
Another plaintiff in the case, an American physician named Nagalingam Jeyalingam, wants to do similar work with the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a violent separatist group in Sri Lanka that, like the PKK, appears on the State Department’s list of terrorist organizations. In the words of the district court, Jeyalingam seeks to “provide training in the presentation of claims to mediators and international bodies for tsunami-related aid, offer legal expertise in negotiating peace agreements between the LTTE and the Sri Lankan government, and engage in political advocacy on behalf of Tamils living in Sri Lanka.”
Whether you think Fertig and Jeyalingam are humanitarian heroes, naive dreamers or inadvertent flacks for terrorists, the projects they have in mind clearly amount to “pure speech promoting lawful, nonviolent activities,” as their attorneys say. Yet the federal law they are challenging seems to make such speech a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.
Under the law, it is a crime to provide an organization on the State Department’s list with “training,” defined as “instruction or teaching designed to impart a specific skill, as opposed to general knowledge”; “expert advice or assistance,” defined as “advice or assistance derived from scientific, technical or other specialized knowledge”; “personnel,” which means any person, including oneself, who works under the organization’s “direction or control”; or “service,” which is not defined at all.
These terms (especially that last one) could easily be construed to cover the activities proposed by Fertig and Jeyalingam, even though they would be trying to discourage terrorism and promote peaceful alternatives.
During oral arguments before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, which ruled that several aspects of the “material support” ban are unconstitutional, the government’s lawyer said you could go to prison for filing a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of a listed group, for pressing its case at the U.N. or even for asking Congress to take the group off the list. “Congress wants these organizations to be radioactive,” he explained.
initially I sent you the letter I sent to U.S. President, Mr Bucsh in a second time my article on the decision ed the European Court of Human Rights which annulled the Decisions of the Council Europe has put the PKK on the list of terrorist organizations. The action before the European Court of Rights was made by my friend Prof. Ismet Sheriff Vanly, Professor Emeritus of International Law at the University of Geneva.
I contacted the head of the organization on this subject. I want to see her Friday, February 26th at the Conference at French Parliament on the situation of Kurdish people in Turkey.
We are available to Dr. Fertig Raplh for all evidence.
Best regards.
Dr Ali Kilic
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